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Timewarp.
Which are the best Time-Paradox stories, novels,  movies? Some of my favourites:
«Traveller's Rest» by David I. Masson
«Great Work of Time» by John Crowley
«A Sound of Thunder» by Ray Bradbury
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nellorat From: nellorat Date: June 2nd, 2011 02:37 pm (UTC) (Link)
There is a movie of A Sound of Thunder. I recommend not seeing it.

"All You Zombies" and "By His Bootstraps" by Robert A. Heinlein are classic time-travel sf, dealing with paradoxes.

"Vintage Season," by C. L Moore and Henry Kuttner (originally under the name Lawrence O'Donnell) involves time-traverl--but the story is better if you have to find out how/why. A little-know film was made of it, called either Timescape or Grand Tour, which is pretty good.

Jack Finney--also author of Invasion of the Body Snatchers--does nice stories blending time-travel and nostalgia, including Time and Again, which was also made into an OK movie.
anselmo_b From: anselmo_b Date: June 2nd, 2011 04:05 pm (UTC) (Link)
Thank you, I'll check those out.

I believe I already saw and forgot the «Sound of Thunder» movie and agree with your warning.
I also remember watching «Time and Again» in my youth and liking it a lot, also of being pleasantly surprised that the grown ups had picked a SciFi movie that could be enjoyed by us kids and by them as well.
jackfirecat From: jackfirecat Date: June 2nd, 2011 06:21 pm (UTC) (Link)
The Butterfly Effect, film. Warning: Not Happy! Sort of Monkey's Paw cursed wishes territory. It does things I didn't expect it to, and does them imaginatively, squids on mantelpieces liberally strewn and are resolved, and it works.

Twelve Monkeys, film. The last scene really got me, I was just at the right amount of not quite getting what was about to happen but almost there for it to send shivers up my spine, which made the whole thing worthwhile.

Donnie Darko, film. Ditto re the coming together just at the right pace for me, so that the last scene was wonderful and devastating at the same time.

Not sure if any of these count as 'paradoxes', just messing with time stuff.
anselmo_b From: anselmo_b Date: June 3rd, 2011 06:28 pm (UTC) (Link)
Good examples. I was a bit unhappy with «The Butterfly Effect» because it's too disturbing. All the violence, the molesting father, the whole ugliness. That's of course a problem with my taste.

By the way, what do you think of the new Star Trek's film timeline mess up? I think that was a brilliant move.
jackfirecat From: jackfirecat Date: June 3rd, 2011 11:24 pm (UTC) (Link)
>Butterfly Effect

It is disturbing - I haven't rewatched but would contemplate doing so (as a horror film) in contrast to Pan's Labyrinth which was just too horrible (in the real bits, not the fantasy horror).

>By the way, what do you think of the new Star Trek's film timeline mess up?

I enjoyed the film. I am a great fan of J. J. Abrams.
jackfirecat From: jackfirecat Date: June 9th, 2011 08:58 pm (UTC) (Link)

Star Trek reimagined rewatched

>By the way, what do you think of the new Star Trek's film timeline mess up? I think that was a brilliant move.

I rewatched it a couple of days ago to refresh my memory. Wow, just as good the first time, and now I remember better: yes, I really liked that.

As action movies go, that one really went & went well.

And it has characters too.

The literally changing the timeline to reinvent the characters a little, rather than just reinventing them with no reason, yes, why not, that really worked for me.

And all the visuals were great. The alien ship looked really good (but the first time round I was thinking vorlons, really alien technology, a bit more different than just a mining ship from 100 years on)


(When I said I was a fan of JJ Abrams, I was thinking of Alias and Cloverfield specifically, both of which are present in tiny bits here - the idea that a red sphere is cool/ the idea of an important red sphere was used also in Alias, and the two monsters on the cold planet look a little cthuloid mythosical, as did the monst from Cloverfield.)
jackfirecat From: jackfirecat Date: June 2nd, 2011 07:18 pm (UTC) (Link)

oh, wait!

I have a book too - Pastwatch by Orson Scott Card (The Redemption of Christopher Columbus) - and that one even does have a bit of an apparent paradox or two in it as it progresses. (Following Crowley's latest I have ended up reading about Colonization of the Americas, which is what then reminded me.) Oh, that's really good. I've summarized it's basic premise, it's implied counter-factual history - as to what might have happened if the Americas hadn't been colonized - to non-SF people on a few occasions. (as a talking point, not as in I think it is realistic, just interestingly imaginative.)

dyvyd From: dyvyd Date: June 5th, 2011 04:27 pm (UTC) (Link)
Favorite film: La Jetée. 1962
anselmo_b From: anselmo_b Date: June 5th, 2011 08:54 pm (UTC) (Link)
I've heard that it's very good, but haven't had the opportunity to see it.
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